Distance: 53892 miles
Fuel Burnt: 24222 ltrs
Laps: 25787
Podium Average: 68%
Fuel Burnt: 24222 ltrs
Laps: 25787
Podium Average: 68%
It does but goodluck finding a server to race on, much less a server thats running anywhere near the car/track you want. Not much different than GTR
I would save your pennies for how much RF costs it's not worth it unless you really enjoyed GTR.Sounds fun, been ages since I have done a proper race =)
Hehe seconded, I just bought new tires =)
I agree, who's going to put the tin hat on and be the guinea pig?
Cheers! :goes to watch:
More than anything I want to see a TBO only server, it's my favorite class. But because of constraints on the userbase we cannot feasibly provide seperate servers for LRF and TBO drivers. There is still some great action to be had on the servers, everyone spread the word and get more people playing LFS then we can unroll more exciting things for everyone =)
Hehe Nope, it's not everyone's cup of tea but if your in the market for a cheap fast, reliable car, thats cheap to maintain (to other performance vehicles of this type) it's the best bang for your buck.
It comes factory with a quaife LSD that does an awesome job limiting the amount of torque steer these cars produce. Going strait off the start lights of a drag strip, if you have lined your car up properly, will see NO torque steer. If you get it wrong there will be some tug but nothing 1 hand couldn't control, still would suggest two.
These engines and drive lines are rated for Dodge's S3 turbo kit which makes 360BHP and 300FT-lbs. It's a sach's clutch coupled with a transmission capable of handling the torque loads. There have been some drivers making over 500BHP on stock internals, not recommended. Most guys will run 350-400 on stock internals. Once the internals are swapped out these engines are capable of over 800BHP.
There is a bore kit available that will turn this engine into a 2.6 and that will create over 1200BHP and run the 1/4 mil in less than 8 seconds, not too shabby for a fwd =) Most people are running 11's and 12's before they have huge traction issues off the line. That being said anything in the 500+ range tends to spin the tires when speeds are in the triple digits so while the engine is capable of handling that much power the FWD does have difficulties, RWD would too, but nowhere near as much as a FWD.
Dodge underrated these vehicles when they first came out at 230HP and these engine create over 270 crank HP. Since they came out in 03 other manufacturers have followed suite. Mazda has the Mazda 3 speed which creates 260 brake, the mini which makes 250, and the cobalt which also makes 250. the civic has tried to keep up, they increased HP to over 200, but had to increase compression to do it, 11/1 or in other words time bomb for most road going cars, but knowing Honda they may have found a way around it and will keep reliability high.
The suspension is done up nicely too and with a competent driver will out perform any other FWD on the market. The only vehicle that even comes close is the mini works edition.
Because it's not a Neon, it's like calling the Evo a Lancer, people just don't do it! The engine is different, almost a half a liter more than the biggest neon engine, the transmission is beefier, the suspension is more capable, seats are a ton better, gotta love Viper seats, and the bodywork is different. So I cannot call it a Neon because it isn't one =)
I used to get prickly about people calling it a Neon, but for people that have never driven one oh how little do they know
I think I started another convert last week (Chris)This all being said, it's not the 'ultimite performance' and if I had the cash I wouldn't have bought a cheap FWD car (I don't dislike FWD RWD just feels more.... natural) but if your budget is tight and want the best performance money can buy, for a newish car this is where it's at. To this date it's still the fastest production FWD in the world with the best handling capabilities.
I am from Wisconsin, but as Sam said I have moved to the UK and imported my vehicle. For you UKer's looking at vehicles these cars can be bought, imported and on a UK road for 8-10k GBP.
I realize thisnameistaken that was intended as a gentile joke, I hope I am being received as the same =)
Well a much cheaper car than the EVO is the SRT4. By far for new cars the best bang for your buck. Even makes the Evo guys nervous Seats 5, full trunk, 30MPG, LOW INSURANCE (for someone under $25 I was less than $100 a month) Even comes with child safety restraints.
The driveline is rated of over 350BHP (some people making over 500HP on stock internals)
Anything in first is a no brainer, but once your in second the SRT-4 on par with the Evo.
If money is an issue the SRT-4 would fit in nicely. Just don't get confused at what car your looking at, it's no neon. Comes muffler free from factory, enjoy =)
The SRT-4 new could be bought for 20,000, upkeep would be cheaper, well any recuring cost would be cheaper than an evo =) could pick up a used SRT-4 for 8-16k or so.
http://www.autoblog.com/2005/0 ... track-day-dodge-srt4-acr/
05 SRT-4
STOCK
232 HP @ The Wheels.
245 TQ @ The Wheels
04 EVO-8
W/ CAT BACK
222HP @ The Wheels
232TQ @ The Wheels
http://www.ktrperformance.com/servic...8_12_10_04.htm
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SRT4 Curb Weight :
2970 lb
EVO-8 MR Curb Weight :
3263 lb
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EVO 0.92g on the skidpad
SRT4 0.89g on the Skidpad (The ACR version has .96)
The Evo is a kick butt car but if the greenbacks are a premium there are alternatives that have the same performance for much less.
Seats 5, full trunk, 30MPG, LOW INSURANCE (for someone under $25 I was less than $100 a month) Even comes with child safety restraints. The driveline is rated of over 350BHP (some people making over 500HP on stock internals)
Anything in first is a no brainer, but once your in second the SRT-4 on par with the Evo.
If money is an issue the SRT-4 would fit in nicely. Just don't get confused at what car your looking at, it's no neon. Comes muffler free from factory, enjoy =)
The SRT-4 new could be bought for 20,000, upkeep would be cheaper, well any recuring cost would be cheaper than an evo =) could pick up a used SRT-4 for 8-16k or so.
http://www.autoblog.com/2005/0 ... track-day-dodge-srt4-acr/
05 SRT-4
STOCK
232 HP @ The Wheels.
245 TQ @ The Wheels
04 EVO-8
W/ CAT BACK
222HP @ The Wheels
232TQ @ The Wheels
http://www.ktrperformance.com/servic...8_12_10_04.htm
__________________________________________________ _____________________________________
SRT4 Curb Weight :
2970 lb
EVO-8 MR Curb Weight :
3263 lb
__________________________________________________ _______________________________________
EVO 0.92g on the skidpad
SRT4 0.89g on the Skidpad (The ACR version has .96)
The Evo is a kick butt car but if the greenbacks are a premium there are alternatives that have the same performance for much less.
It was! sooo tired now...
But then why would you want to use CTRA WITHOUT having LFS?
Well they are handling more of the event side of things and the day-to-day racing is not really covered.
Hate to break it to ya bud but you need a computer to read sensors and decide if the ABS should activate. A simple computer, but it's still a computer.
I think you need to read up on your evo stats. You have to be getting the evo and scooby mixed up. The subaru has no controls IIRC other than ABS.
From the Evo Wiki
"Detail improvements have also been made to Mitsubishi’s own electronic all-wheel drive, to the ACD 5 + Super AYC 6 (Active Yaw Control, IE COMPUTER CONTROLLED) traction control and to the Sports ABS systems. The Lancer Evolution VIII displayed at the 2003 Tokyo Motor Show took the MR designation traditionally reserved for Mitsubishi Motors high-performance models and used first on the Galant GTO. Other parts on the MR include BBS alloy wheels, Bilstein shocks, and an aluminium roof. In the United Kingdom, many special Evolutions were introduced, which included FQ300, FQ320, FQ340, and FQ400 variants. They each came with 305, 320, 340, and 400 hp (227, 239, 254 and 298 kW), respectively. It is rumored that the 'FQ' stands for '****ing Quick'.[2][3]
"Lancer Evolution
The Lancer Evolution IX introduced in 2005 features an electronically controlled full-time four wheel drive system, which incorporates Super AYC, ACD and Sport ABS. The Super AYC is an improved version of the AYC system first introduced on the Lancer Evolution IV. Compared to the previous system it now uses a planetary gear differential that can transfer almost twice the torque between the rear wheels. Lancer Evolution IX also uses a revised AWC system that is even more pro-active than in previous generations. On the Evo VIII, the AWC system gave priority to the Sport ABS system in order to stabilise the car under heavy braking. The ACD and Super AYC modules were effectively disengaged. The AWC system has been revised so that the driving force is still controlled actively, even when the Sports ABS is operational. Through a series of high-speed bends, for example, the system will continue to control the yaw moment of the car, even if the driver is applying braking force. The car’s agility and stability are both improved, and the car responds more accurately to steering input on the entry to a corner.[23]
According to Mitsubishi, the Lancer Evolution uses its four-wheel drive system to improve the handling, rather than simply to increase traction. Super AYC acts like a limited slip differential to optimise the Lancer’s handling during hard driving. It improves cornering performance by transferring torque between the rear wheels. It also works harmoniously with the ACD, which was introduced on the Evolution VII. Mitsubishi's Sports ABS system is used to enhance the steering control during hard driving. The Sport ABS ECU uses inputs from steering angle, lateral G and vehicle speed sensors to individually apportion braking pressure to each of the four wheels.[23]"
Curious, how can you think that the evo has no computer controls helping keep control of the car... Lets see there is YAW control, ABS, Traction control, should I keep going? Active differential management... Where is the fun in that? Yay I just set a new laptime, oh wait I don't actually know how to drive and I rely on computer systems to 'blurr' the edge so I when I see a light on the dash I know I am going too fast.
Sorry this sounds like computer control to me.
Sorry to hear your selling your rig Jack. I hope your not making a mistake and giving up the hobbies you love because you feel you must to keep someone in your life.
It's different if you honestly don't feel gaming is not a part of who you are or want to be anymore, but don't be doing this just because there is/was conflict between yourself and a significant other. You need to be 'yourself' too.
It's different if you honestly don't feel gaming is not a part of who you are or want to be anymore, but don't be doing this just because there is/was conflict between yourself and a significant other. You need to be 'yourself' too.
Glad you had insight to know that you stepped wrong. The CTRA is supposed show people, like yourself, that online racing needs more than a person behind a steering wheel. We need drivers who think critically and assess situations so that they minimize the amount of problems on the track, just like the real drivers do. Not just racers either, every person who drives a vehicle in the world uses these skills, just to a lesser degree, well most drivers do anyways...
In simple terms we want to teach people that they are responsible for their actions even in this massively changing world today that revolves more and more around the internet. You are a prime example of the system working properly, and we are proud, not so much for ourselves, but you, the driver(s) who see can see that distinction!
I just love how people love taking the micky out of something, I agree their main point is a no brainer but what did they do over those 10 years?
Did they try to brainstorm solutions which could help with the current problem?
And I don't mean some idiot solutions like "prevent people from driving" Did they see a potential for cars to drive themselves? IIRC GM tested and proved this is possible with a convoy of vehicles in 1997 down a main interstate, normal road conditions with other drivers on the road.
Or did they do exactly as you all are trying to insinuate, that they sat on the thumbs for ten years then decided to say.... "Ohh by the way there are too many cars on the road" I highly doubt that actually happened and there was an in depth report on how to exactly deal with the problem instead of just stating the obvious that anyone driving a car can see...
Did they try to brainstorm solutions which could help with the current problem?
And I don't mean some idiot solutions like "prevent people from driving" Did they see a potential for cars to drive themselves? IIRC GM tested and proved this is possible with a convoy of vehicles in 1997 down a main interstate, normal road conditions with other drivers on the road.
Or did they do exactly as you all are trying to insinuate, that they sat on the thumbs for ten years then decided to say.... "Ohh by the way there are too many cars on the road" I highly doubt that actually happened and there was an in depth report on how to exactly deal with the problem instead of just stating the obvious that anyone driving a car can see...
LOL Duhhhh
What else did the report delve into. There is more behind it than those simple words.
Yeah Sorry Dan I should have made a mention that we don't know all the information yet ourselves and that this post was just a way to raise awareness of the league launching for this season.
To be fair on Joe he's been putting in some long hours, there have been days he's not even gone home for the night but hopefully soon there will be information on his site for the UK division.
We are handing out information as we receive.
I think they did a great job for the STCC itself where we put many laps into practicing but not enough people pay attention to the layout changes to be able to effectively use the barrier.
Then whats the point of the CTRA? We might as well go back to having the wrecker barricade and remove the CTRA from helping leagues with providing quality racers, which is the whole point of the system besides trying to educate drivers on the rules and etiquette of racing.
If you cannot handle the slow cars you don't deserve the right to drive the fast cars to put it simply.
If you really can drive a faster car as well as needed to drive in the higher servers then you wouldn't have a problem earning points in the slow cars, it's not that hard. I went from bronze to gold in less than a month IIRC and I never really liked driving the slower cars either.
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Then you have not learned the art of racing =) A lot of the higher licensed drivers race on race1 because the racing is so close and entertaining.
There are plenty of cars out there that are easy to drive faster than XFG and XRG but there is a reason why they are slow, they give a chance for newish drivers, like yourself, to learn how to properly handle a car in race situations while still providing as much time as possible to people to overcome little mistakes without incident.
If you cannot drive the slow cars at a pace to earn the licenses to enter into the higher servers we don't want you running in the faster cars where reactions NEED to be EVEN faster than they have to be in Race1. Is it easy, no it's not, if it was what would be the point. Keep at it and try to get your laptimes down aswell as preventing any yellows during a race and you will quickly see yourself with a bronze and silver license. Having a yellow free race is worth as many points as the fastest laptime =)
Ahh, makes more sense now =) I thought you were originally talking about LFS in general, sorry :ashamed:
You will have to look, I do believe there are other series running on other days.
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